Using 'your' Legal Fiction after taking the Oath..
Hello all. So my question is: if somebody decides to take their oath of sovereignty, and issue notices etc., do they still have access to services they would use under their legal fiction, like benefits, bank loans et al?
Hello Stephanie. Since the oath of sovereignty, the notices and such are fantasy and have no effect on anything, it is safe to do them as you like.
The idea of a "legal fiction" or various tricks/loopholes to avoid paying taxes or following laws has been rejected for longer than we've been alive. There have been many landmark court decisions that clarify some of these pseudo-law myths - perhaps the most well-known was ruled in Alberta. Meads v Meads is an educational document, because it talks about the ideas behind these pseudo-law concepts, and even includes a section on Magna Carta.
Concepts around "legal fiction", strawman, and similar double/split person ideas, are discussed starting on page 92. Magna Carta is discussed, the "Three of Five letters" concept is discussed, in fact many pieces that you see in the group are discussed.
The message of this document is: These schemes/tricks have existed in Canada and elsewhere for over 30 years. "Gurus" (like David Robinson) come across these schemes, give it their own twist, and then take advantage of people like you to grow their movement. (You are lucky that David/Jacqui aren't big on asking for money - many of these gurus charge money and get quite rich off this stuff.) These movements are not original in nature, and there are no experts here - these ideas and concepts are rehashed, re-used, and recycled. This has been happening in Canada for over 30 years. None of these concepts hold water in court or in this country - none of this works or is real. There are a couple HUNDRED cases and examples given in this one document alone, to try to drive the point home and to help you understand, how this ACTUALLY goes. That is it. The hope is to save people from these troubles.
These people would love you to believe that they have plenty of wins and successes, and no failures. If you look very critically, you'll see it is quite the opposite - there are no victories here. And when people fail, the most common excuse given is "They didn't follow the process perfectly."
Open minded people can learn quite a bit if they're brave enough to read. Best of luck. I will not go into detail here about how this movement ruins lives, but if you'd like to I can.
In theory, no. However, this all depends on the system you want to access. Ultimately, they own the rights to terminate.
Hello Stephanie. Since the oath of sovereignty, the notices and such are fantasy and have no effect on anything, it is safe to do them as you like.
The idea of a "legal fiction" or various tricks/loopholes to avoid paying taxes or following laws has been rejected for longer than we've been alive. There have been many landmark court decisions that clarify some of these pseudo-law myths - perhaps the most well-known was ruled in Alberta. Meads v Meads is an educational document, because it talks about the ideas behind these pseudo-law concepts, and even includes a section on Magna Carta.
Concepts around "legal fiction", strawman, and similar double/split person ideas, are discussed starting on page 92. Magna Carta is discussed, the "Three of Five letters" concept is discussed, in fact many pieces that you see in the group are discussed.
The message of this document is: These schemes/tricks have existed in Canada and elsewhere for over 30 years. "Gurus" (like David Robinson) come across these schemes, give it their own twist, and then take advantage of people like you to grow their movement. (You are lucky that David/Jacqui aren't big on asking for money - many of these gurus charge money and get quite rich off this stuff.) These movements are not original in nature, and there are no experts here - these ideas and concepts are rehashed, re-used, and recycled. This has been happening in Canada for over 30 years. None of these concepts hold water in court or in this country - none of this works or is real. There are a couple HUNDRED cases and examples given in this one document alone, to try to drive the point home and to help you understand, how this ACTUALLY goes. That is it. The hope is to save people from these troubles.
These people would love you to believe that they have plenty of wins and successes, and no failures. If you look very critically, you'll see it is quite the opposite - there are no victories here. And when people fail, the most common excuse given is "They didn't follow the process perfectly."
Open minded people can learn quite a bit if they're brave enough to read. Best of luck. I will not go into detail here about how this movement ruins lives, but if you'd like to I can.
https://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abqb/doc/2012/2012abqb571/2012abqb571.html#document
Thank you for this link, very interesting