Hello all. So my question is: if somebody decides to take their oath of sovereignty, and issue notices etc., do they still have access to services they would use under their legal fiction, like benefits, bank loans et al?
I feel you should educate yourself more in what's fact and what's fiction on the Common Law Court website frank! Here's the link for your convenience and to allow you a little break in your research of what's true and what certainly is not! Legal fiction, strawman? Hmm, you have the right to research CLC at your leisure.
Hello Stephanie. Since the oath of sovereignty, the notices and such are fantasy and have no effect on anything, it is safe to do them as you like.
The idea of a "legal fiction" or various tricks/loopholes to avoid paying taxes or following laws has been rejected for longer than we've been alive. There have been many landmark court decisions that clarify some of these pseudo-law myths - perhaps the most well-known was ruled in Alberta. Meads v Meads is an educational document, because it talks about the ideas behind these pseudo-law concepts, and even includes a section on Magna Carta.
Concepts around "legal fiction", strawman, and similar double/split person ideas, are discussed starting on page 92. Magna Carta is discussed, the "Three of Five letters" concept is discussed, in fact many pieces that you see in the group are discussed.
The message of this document is: These schemes/tricks have existed in Canada and elsewhere for over 30 years. "Gurus" (like David Robinson) come across these schemes, give it their own twist, and then take advantage of people like you to grow their movement. (You are lucky that David/Jacqui aren't big on asking for money - many of these gurus charge money and get quite rich off this stuff.) These movements are not original in nature, and there are no experts here - these ideas and concepts are rehashed, re-used, and recycled. This has been happening in Canada for over 30 years. None of these concepts hold water in court or in this country - none of this works or is real. There are a couple HUNDRED cases and examples given in this one document alone, to try to drive the point home and to help you understand, how this ACTUALLY goes. That is it. The hope is to save people from these troubles.
These people would love you to believe that they have plenty of wins and successes, and no failures. If you look very critically, you'll see it is quite the opposite - there are no victories here. And when people fail, the most common excuse given is "They didn't follow the process perfectly."
Open minded people can learn quite a bit if they're brave enough to read. Best of luck. I will not go into detail here about how this movement ruins lives, but if you'd like to I can.
The bottom line is that we are living under the dictates of corrupt system based on slavery and robbery. The time comes when enough is enough and its not about avoiding paying taxes, etc. but rather deciding for oneself what stand or action to take to stop this oppression. The system's survival is dependant on us. Once the support is withdrawn, the system collapses. Simple to comprehend, but fear and mind control holds us all back. Sovereignty is a process and each being individually has to walk through this process for themselves. There are plenty or resources on line and its about choosing to align with truth or to continue lying to oneself as a comfortable excuse to remain within the comfort zone of 'safe and cosy' invisible prison. The mind will align with intention and will be drawn to the information depending on original intention of fear or truth and freedom. My wish is that more of us choose to align with truth.
why are you on this page if thats your opinion. there are successful case using this process . check them out in the topics. I can personally say have used the process of Conditional Acceptance with sussess??
@Gillian Ofthefamily Allen We are not discussing opinion. This is not opinion. There can indeed, be real and fake - true and false.
You will find the successes consist of very spurious examples that are very lacking in detail or context. The only "Success" I've ever seen posted to this Forum or website were a recent video of a traffic stop, which explained absolutely nothing and provided more questions than answers. The situation was not clear, nor was the outcome.
The famous "Success" of this movement, ever, was when David Robinson and others sat in on a council meeting years ago, and declared they were going to "sit in" at the building until everyone went home and the janitor forced them to leave. Then they went home. This was somehow held up as an example of Redress or Occupying Public Buildings. Yes, really.
Your "Success", I would love for you to detail exactly what it consisted of. Please, I welcome you to describe it. Then maybe we can speak some more. Thank you.
I feel you should educate yourself more in what's fact and what's fiction on the Common Law Court website frank! Here's the link for your convenience and to allow you a little break in your research of what's true and what certainly is not! Legal fiction, strawman? Hmm, you have the right to research CLC at your leisure.
Homepage - Common Law Court
Yes, everyone who's under oath has been able to continue functioning in the system under duress of circumstance.
Hello Stephanie. Since the oath of sovereignty, the notices and such are fantasy and have no effect on anything, it is safe to do them as you like.
The idea of a "legal fiction" or various tricks/loopholes to avoid paying taxes or following laws has been rejected for longer than we've been alive. There have been many landmark court decisions that clarify some of these pseudo-law myths - perhaps the most well-known was ruled in Alberta. Meads v Meads is an educational document, because it talks about the ideas behind these pseudo-law concepts, and even includes a section on Magna Carta.
Concepts around "legal fiction", strawman, and similar double/split person ideas, are discussed starting on page 92. Magna Carta is discussed, the "Three of Five letters" concept is discussed, in fact many pieces that you see in the group are discussed.
The message of this document is: These schemes/tricks have existed in Canada and elsewhere for over 30 years. "Gurus" (like David Robinson) come across these schemes, give it their own twist, and then take advantage of people like you to grow their movement. (You are lucky that David/Jacqui aren't big on asking for money - many of these gurus charge money and get quite rich off this stuff.) These movements are not original in nature, and there are no experts here - these ideas and concepts are rehashed, re-used, and recycled. This has been happening in Canada for over 30 years. None of these concepts hold water in court or in this country - none of this works or is real. There are a couple HUNDRED cases and examples given in this one document alone, to try to drive the point home and to help you understand, how this ACTUALLY goes. That is it. The hope is to save people from these troubles.
These people would love you to believe that they have plenty of wins and successes, and no failures. If you look very critically, you'll see it is quite the opposite - there are no victories here. And when people fail, the most common excuse given is "They didn't follow the process perfectly."
Open minded people can learn quite a bit if they're brave enough to read. Best of luck. I will not go into detail here about how this movement ruins lives, but if you'd like to I can.
https://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abqb/doc/2012/2012abqb571/2012abqb571.html#document
In theory, no. However, this all depends on the system you want to access. Ultimately, they own the rights to terminate.